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Bryan Engine
Posted by: chuk williams (IP Logged)
Date: April 21, 2003 09:56PM
<HTML>Hello Yall--
I know there are several owners of Bryan engines out there,
and I'd like to get a bit of info on their pros and cons, maintenance
tips, parts availability, etc.
Thanks for your help--
Chuk</HTML>
I know there are several owners of Bryan engines out there,
and I'd like to get a bit of info on their pros and cons, maintenance
tips, parts availability, etc.
Thanks for your help--
Chuk</HTML>
Re: Bryan Engine
Posted by: George Nutz (IP Logged)
Date: April 24, 2003 06:38PM
<HTML>Chuk,
The Bryan is similar to the 4X5 Stanley but much stronger and better in many ways. It has BIG 2" piston valves that allow it to breath well upwards of 1500rpm and can also take higher steam temperatures. Because of its much improved breathing its indicator diagram doesn't collapse like the Stanley at about 900 rpm. The frame rods are spaced farther apart making the box beam much stronger in torsion than the Stanley. There are three "Stanleys" running around with this engine and its performance is startling. I have seen one run at 800psi and one not dare to ever take a Stanley engine to that pressure. The former president of Bryan told me that he remembers looking at dynomometer tests on this engine with pressures up to 1000psi and 1500rpm. It can actually produce more horsepower with a lower steam rate than the bigger 30HP 4.5 X 6.5 Stanley engine.
George</HTML>
The Bryan is similar to the 4X5 Stanley but much stronger and better in many ways. It has BIG 2" piston valves that allow it to breath well upwards of 1500rpm and can also take higher steam temperatures. Because of its much improved breathing its indicator diagram doesn't collapse like the Stanley at about 900 rpm. The frame rods are spaced farther apart making the box beam much stronger in torsion than the Stanley. There are three "Stanleys" running around with this engine and its performance is startling. I have seen one run at 800psi and one not dare to ever take a Stanley engine to that pressure. The former president of Bryan told me that he remembers looking at dynomometer tests on this engine with pressures up to 1000psi and 1500rpm. It can actually produce more horsepower with a lower steam rate than the bigger 30HP 4.5 X 6.5 Stanley engine.
George</HTML>
Re: Bryan Engine
Posted by: chuk williams (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2003 01:50PM
<HTML>
George-
Thanks for the info--I've just assumed the caretaking duties
(purchased!)a Bryan engine, and I'm trying to find out more about
them in order to properly care for and maintain mine. For example-
this one has a ball bearing on one rod end, and a roller bearing on
the other---I would like to correct this--does anyone know of a
bearing supplier who has these bearings in stock??
Thanks---Chuk</HTML>
George-
Thanks for the info--I've just assumed the caretaking duties
(purchased!)a Bryan engine, and I'm trying to find out more about
them in order to properly care for and maintain mine. For example-
this one has a ball bearing on one rod end, and a roller bearing on
the other---I would like to correct this--does anyone know of a
bearing supplier who has these bearings in stock??
Thanks---Chuk</HTML>
Re: Bryan Engine
Posted by: George Nutz (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2003 03:26PM
<HTML>Chuk,
That sounds very suspicious---someone changed one side? We have a number of prints of the engine from the Bryan Company and the original bearings were off the shelf SKF type that are still available and a regular size. A great improvement over the Stanley and Doble where the races were ground and polished into the crank and connecting rods. One of many advances the Bryan Company did. I do wonder why yours is different.
Glad you got the engine, it can put out about 200 horsepower when pushed to the limit if an enormous quantity of steam is available!!! They are standard millimeter bearings if a failing memory recalls. What state did you buy/find it in? There are three in our SACA/NE club at this time, one in a Vanderbilt.
George</HTML>
That sounds very suspicious---someone changed one side? We have a number of prints of the engine from the Bryan Company and the original bearings were off the shelf SKF type that are still available and a regular size. A great improvement over the Stanley and Doble where the races were ground and polished into the crank and connecting rods. One of many advances the Bryan Company did. I do wonder why yours is different.
Glad you got the engine, it can put out about 200 horsepower when pushed to the limit if an enormous quantity of steam is available!!! They are standard millimeter bearings if a failing memory recalls. What state did you buy/find it in? There are three in our SACA/NE club at this time, one in a Vanderbilt.
George</HTML>
Re: Bryan Engine
Posted by: chuk williams (IP Logged)
Date: April 26, 2003 04:38PM
<HTML>
George--
The engine I have came from the farming country of Alberta, Canada,
and that's about all the history I have on it....It's in very good condition,
and seems as though it's been used very little-yet the one bearing has
been changed. Glad to hear that the bearings are hopefully still available-
could you get me in touch with some of the Bryan owners in your area???
Off list might be best---my address is chukalexa@mchsi.com Is there
any chance of getting a copy of those prints you mention??
Cheers---Chuk</HTML>
George--
The engine I have came from the farming country of Alberta, Canada,
and that's about all the history I have on it....It's in very good condition,
and seems as though it's been used very little-yet the one bearing has
been changed. Glad to hear that the bearings are hopefully still available-
could you get me in touch with some of the Bryan owners in your area???
Off list might be best---my address is chukalexa@mchsi.com Is there
any chance of getting a copy of those prints you mention??
Cheers---Chuk</HTML>
Re: Bryan Engine
Posted by: Arnold Walker (IP Logged)
Date: April 26, 2003 04:43PM
<HTML>Would it be possible to get copies of the prints from the SACA storeroom.
If not now,later this year....Nutz has me rethinking my build from scratch Stanley prints that I got from LIght Steam.
To go with the lamont that I have been eyeball engineering from the articles.Come to think of it maybe that as well ....wouldn't mind paying a little extra for the prints either.If it helped get a 4TH issue of the lamont report in Stanley website.Can't wait to see the next article...here's hoping.</HTML>
If not now,later this year....Nutz has me rethinking my build from scratch Stanley prints that I got from LIght Steam.
To go with the lamont that I have been eyeball engineering from the articles.Come to think of it maybe that as well ....wouldn't mind paying a little extra for the prints either.If it helped get a 4TH issue of the lamont report in Stanley website.Can't wait to see the next article...here's hoping.</HTML>
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