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full scale kit of a 1901 Locomobile
Posted by: Simon Cast (IP Logged)
Date: September 26, 2003 04:51PM
<HTML>My name is Simon Cast and I jointly own a model engineering company called Modelworks. (www.modelworks-int.com) As you will see from our web site we produce buy as you build kit's for large scale steam model locomotives, traction engines, lorries and tanks.
The main advantage we have over other engineering companies is that all our component's are supplied fully machined and ready to assemble (after perhaps a little filing but no milling or a lathe is ever required) This way even if you are a novice engineer (like myself) you are able to build, over a relatively short period of time, compared to scratch built model's, a large scale live steam model.
We are considering producing a full scale kit of a 1901 locomobile that would be supplied to our client's on a monthly basis. Each month a kit of part's would be delivered so the 1901 Locomobile would require 12-18 months to build. Once the final kit had been delivered and built, steaming would then be readily available.
I am writing to all of the steam enthusiast's out there to ask all of you, if we did decide to produce such a kit would it be of interest to the steam car community. I say this because we would not want to in any way insult engineer's who would feel that they would rather "do it themselves"
We believe we could produce a high quality and accurate Locomobile within perhap's 12 month's from now if we feel the demand is there. No definite decision's have yet been taken, but at the factory in Daventry, England we have a considerable amount of enthusiasm for such a project, again if we feel the model would enjoy enough demand within the steam car community, and to be fair the modelling fraternity in general.
So I am asking anyone who has been kind enough to read this to please give me your thought's and feeling's about just what YOU would look for from such a steam car, and if you feel there is a market for just such a project as this. Once again thank you for taking the time and trouble to read this note.
One final thought if this were to proceed we would require as accurate and original drawing's as anyone would be able to provide to us. Any suggestion's as to where or if any such drawing's do indeed exist?
Once again many thanks Simon Cast Modelworks</HTML>
The main advantage we have over other engineering companies is that all our component's are supplied fully machined and ready to assemble (after perhaps a little filing but no milling or a lathe is ever required) This way even if you are a novice engineer (like myself) you are able to build, over a relatively short period of time, compared to scratch built model's, a large scale live steam model.
We are considering producing a full scale kit of a 1901 locomobile that would be supplied to our client's on a monthly basis. Each month a kit of part's would be delivered so the 1901 Locomobile would require 12-18 months to build. Once the final kit had been delivered and built, steaming would then be readily available.
I am writing to all of the steam enthusiast's out there to ask all of you, if we did decide to produce such a kit would it be of interest to the steam car community. I say this because we would not want to in any way insult engineer's who would feel that they would rather "do it themselves"
We believe we could produce a high quality and accurate Locomobile within perhap's 12 month's from now if we feel the demand is there. No definite decision's have yet been taken, but at the factory in Daventry, England we have a considerable amount of enthusiasm for such a project, again if we feel the model would enjoy enough demand within the steam car community, and to be fair the modelling fraternity in general.
So I am asking anyone who has been kind enough to read this to please give me your thought's and feeling's about just what YOU would look for from such a steam car, and if you feel there is a market for just such a project as this. Once again thank you for taking the time and trouble to read this note.
One final thought if this were to proceed we would require as accurate and original drawing's as anyone would be able to provide to us. Any suggestion's as to where or if any such drawing's do indeed exist?
Once again many thanks Simon Cast Modelworks</HTML>
Re: full scale kit of a 1901 Locomobile
Posted by: EARL C. LEAVEY (IP Logged)
Date: September 26, 2003 07:33PM
<HTML>HOWARD HENDERSON BUILT A NICE LOCOMOBILE REPLICAR. CHECK OUT THE LINK TO HIS WEB PAGE AND CONTACT HIM VIA E-MAIL. [members.aol.com];
Re: full scale kit of a 1901 Locomobile
Posted by: EARL C. LEAVEY (IP Logged)
Date: September 26, 2003 07:52PM
<HTML>LINK : 1899 LOCOMOBILE. [www.platinumclassics.com];
Re: full scale kit of a 1901 Locomobile
Posted by: Per Nielsen (IP Logged)
Date: September 26, 2003 08:26PM
<HTML>You can find a very nice set of plans for a Stanley/Locomobile and a fine artickle in "The Steam Automobile" 1981 vol. 23, No. 3 available through SACA.</HTML>
Re: full scale kit of a 1901 Locomobile
Posted by: Jordan (IP Logged)
Date: September 29, 2003 03:19PM
<HTML>Simon, do you have any preliminary idea of a price yet?
Thanks,
Jordan</HTML>
Thanks,
Jordan</HTML>
Re: full scale kit of a 1901 Locomobile
Posted by: Simon Cast (IP Logged)
Date: September 29, 2003 04:30PM
<HTML>Hello Jordan
Thank you for taking the trouble to read my e-mail. That's a very good question, if you look at our website www.modelworks-int.com you will find our biggest and most complex model is a 4" scale model of a Burrell traction engine. That one will be delivered over 24 month's and will eventually be 70" long and weigh half a ton!
In English money the total cost for the Burrell, as I say spread over 24 month's less the deposit of £1299, is 24 monthly payment's of £479 giving a total of £12,795. That gives an american dollar figure for that particular model of about $20-21,000 based on £1 equalling $1.60ish.
I believe (but as I say these are rough estimates at the moment) we could produce a high quality and reasonably accurate full scale 1901 locomobile for somewhere between £14-16,000. That would translate to a roughly projected American dollar figure of approximately $23-26,000 or there about's.
Please dont hold me to these figure's because as I say collectively we have made no definite decision's about going into production yet, but talking to the staff they all have a great deal of enthusiasm for the proposed project. Personally I don't see how it can be more complex than the Burrell and next year we will be launching a 4" scale burrell Showman's as well and that beastie will be nearly 90" so I feel a Locomobile will be within our engineering and production capabilities.
My main concern for a model of this size will be the shipping cost's of the kit's to America because I believe this model will be more popular in USA than the UK. That may make it unrealistic for American client's however if enough were sold in America, and I am thinking we will need to sell 100-150 Stateside and hopefully 50-80 in UK and Europe. If these figures are achievable then I would consider probably sending over the American kit's on a quarterly basis rather than monthly by boat and not by plane.
I wonder Jordan if you would perhaps be kind enough to ask around and find out what the interest levels would be in the American clubs if such a Locomobile kit were to become available. As I say we have considerable enthusiasm for the project but I just do not know what sort of number's we would need to build, and frankly how poular it would be at these kind of pricing level's.
Once again thank you for responding to my e-mail and I hope to hear from you in the not to distant future, many thanks
Simon Cast Modelworks</HTML>
Thank you for taking the trouble to read my e-mail. That's a very good question, if you look at our website www.modelworks-int.com you will find our biggest and most complex model is a 4" scale model of a Burrell traction engine. That one will be delivered over 24 month's and will eventually be 70" long and weigh half a ton!
In English money the total cost for the Burrell, as I say spread over 24 month's less the deposit of £1299, is 24 monthly payment's of £479 giving a total of £12,795. That gives an american dollar figure for that particular model of about $20-21,000 based on £1 equalling $1.60ish.
I believe (but as I say these are rough estimates at the moment) we could produce a high quality and reasonably accurate full scale 1901 locomobile for somewhere between £14-16,000. That would translate to a roughly projected American dollar figure of approximately $23-26,000 or there about's.
Please dont hold me to these figure's because as I say collectively we have made no definite decision's about going into production yet, but talking to the staff they all have a great deal of enthusiasm for the proposed project. Personally I don't see how it can be more complex than the Burrell and next year we will be launching a 4" scale burrell Showman's as well and that beastie will be nearly 90" so I feel a Locomobile will be within our engineering and production capabilities.
My main concern for a model of this size will be the shipping cost's of the kit's to America because I believe this model will be more popular in USA than the UK. That may make it unrealistic for American client's however if enough were sold in America, and I am thinking we will need to sell 100-150 Stateside and hopefully 50-80 in UK and Europe. If these figures are achievable then I would consider probably sending over the American kit's on a quarterly basis rather than monthly by boat and not by plane.
I wonder Jordan if you would perhaps be kind enough to ask around and find out what the interest levels would be in the American clubs if such a Locomobile kit were to become available. As I say we have considerable enthusiasm for the project but I just do not know what sort of number's we would need to build, and frankly how poular it would be at these kind of pricing level's.
Once again thank you for responding to my e-mail and I hope to hear from you in the not to distant future, many thanks
Simon Cast Modelworks</HTML>
Re: full scale kit of a 1901 Locomobile
Posted by: Caleb Ramsby (IP Logged)
Date: September 29, 2003 08:25PM
<HTML>Simon,
To further your research I would suggest going to [www.steamautomobile.com] , this is the Steam Automobile Club of America's home on the internet. There is also a forum there where you could post the same question and mabey get a few more responses.
I would also highly suggest contacting Tom Elliot. He is the editor of The Steam Automobile Bulletin.
Tom Elliott, Interim Editor
1680 Dartmouth Lane
Deerfield, IL 60015-3945
ph: 847.945.1975
I am sure that he would be glad to include your inquiry into the next bulletin.
Gorgous clocks by the way!
Caleb Ramsby</HTML>
To further your research I would suggest going to [www.steamautomobile.com] , this is the Steam Automobile Club of America's home on the internet. There is also a forum there where you could post the same question and mabey get a few more responses.
I would also highly suggest contacting Tom Elliot. He is the editor of The Steam Automobile Bulletin.
Tom Elliott, Interim Editor
1680 Dartmouth Lane
Deerfield, IL 60015-3945
ph: 847.945.1975
I am sure that he would be glad to include your inquiry into the next bulletin.
Gorgous clocks by the way!
Caleb Ramsby</HTML>
Re: full scale kit of a 1901 Locomobile
Posted by: robert douglas (IP Logged)
Date: October 24, 2003 04:29PM
<HTML>I am interested in a kit form steam car or models you produce</HTML>
Re: full scale kit of a 1901 Locomobile
Posted by: David "Tex" Peterson (IP Logged)
Date: December 10, 2004 09:57PM
<HTML>Yes, SACA stands for the Steam Automobile Club of America. I do believe we have many International members in this organization. Being I'm not a board member I don't know of other SACA members from your country, but it would not suprise me in the least. Especially being gentilmen from your country have been dealing with steam powered vehicles for a few decades longer than here in the U.S.
If you would like any information reguarding SACA, feel free to contact me. I'd be glad to get you what ever information you may need with reguards to this organization of which I'm a member.
Sinceerly,
Tex</HTML>
If you would like any information reguarding SACA, feel free to contact me. I'd be glad to get you what ever information you may need with reguards to this organization of which I'm a member.
Sinceerly,
Tex</HTML>
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