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who?
Posted by: devan (IP Logged)
Date: September 17, 2003 07:35PM

<HTML>who invented the steam car?? was it the stanly brothers?</HTML>

Re: who?
Posted by: Peter Brow (IP Logged)
Date: September 18, 2003 06:20AM

<HTML>Depends on your definition of "steam car" and "invented". The first steam-powered vehicle to run on a road was built by Nicholas Joseph Cugnot, in France, in 1769. It ran a very short distance, only a few hundred yards according to some accounts, and didn't see much use due to severe design limitations. It was, properly speaking, a tow truck, designed to pull cannons for the French Army. The idea is much older, but as far as I know, no running road vehicles were built before Cugnot's.

Gurney and Hancock built practical steam road buses in the 1820s-1830s in England. If not for restrictive laws, self-propelled road vehicles could have been a practical, everyday reality nearly a century earlier than actually happened.

Peter</HTML>

Re: who?
Posted by: David K. Nergaard (IP Logged)
Date: September 21, 2003 11:52AM

<HTML>One must not forget Sylvester Roper, who built his first steam buggy in the 1860s. He had benn driving steamers around Boston for so long that when George Whitney and the Stanleys started making them it was not considered news worthy! At least four Roper vehicles are in existance, although one of them is not recognised for what it is.</HTML>

Re: who?what/when
Posted by: C Benson (IP Logged)
Date: September 21, 2003 10:30PM

<HTML>1795 Reed in Danvers Mass proposed a steam wagon,,,XXXX 1805 Oliver Evans paraded his steam dredge wagon/boat 3 miles to the harbor ,,, XXXX 1835 Morley drove a wagon,,off the road an' crashed,,,XXXX 1859 Judge David Rice of Agusta Maine terrorized the locals with his steam wagon,,,XXXX S Roper's wagons were agile and LIGHT,,,he also built a self propelled fire engine,,,All for now ,,,Ben</HTML>

Re: who?
Posted by: Peter Turvey (IP Logged)
Date: September 27, 2003 01:55PM

<HTML>Everyone has forgotten the Comte de Dion's 188's steamers!

But it all depends if you are looking for the fist road steamsr, or the first that worked, or the first that made an impression on the market....</HTML>

Re: who?
Posted by: john fehn (IP Logged)
Date: November 28, 2003 03:54AM

<HTML>while i was at an automobile concorse show
at pebble beach california in 1997, there
was an 1880's de Dion dos-a-dos running on
coke and if my memory serves me correctly,
it was claimed that it was the oldest
automobile in existance. it sounds like
the Ropers would be older. does anyone
know where the ones that are
recognized as being Ropers can be seen?
tks,
john fehn</HTML>

Re: who?
Posted by: Howard Randall (IP Logged)
Date: November 28, 2003 12:03PM

<HTML>A Roper steam "car" can be seen in the Ford Museum, Dearborn, MI.
A Roper Steam motocycle can be found in the Smithsonian collection(Museum of American History) in Washington, D.C.</HTML>

Re: who?
Posted by: Chico (IP Logged)
Date: January 19, 2005 05:29PM

<HTML>CAmilo Sanchez made the first car in the world he made it in the best hood in the world melrose with his hard working friends dareyon and jeremy. I think that we should honor all three of them for building the first car. thet are totally the bestand they get they the finest girls in the world</HTML>

Re: who?
Posted by: Dean Lehrke (IP Logged)
Date: August 11, 2005 01:15AM

<HTML> In 1671 a Catholic priest in Peking China named Father Claudio Filippo Grimaldi built a set of steam-driven model boats and cars to entertain Chinese emperor Chien Lung. The boilers supplied steam that propelled paddle-wheels which drove gear trains to power the vehicles. One of his little cars ran nonstop for two hours. There's a working reconstruction of his car in the Milan science museum. A friend of his, Father Ferdinand Verbiest, repeated Grimaldi's experiments in about 1678.</HTML>



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