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Stanley Museum Auction Results
Posted by: Graeme Vagg (IP Logged)
Date: July 10, 2004 11:27PM
<HTML>Did any list readers attend the recent Stanley Museum Auction and buy anything? There were some Stanley engines and parts that would have been useful to support and existing vehicle or the basis for a new one.
How fierce was the bidding?
Graeme</HTML>
How fierce was the bidding?
Graeme</HTML>
Re: Stanley Museum Auction Results
Posted by: George Nutz (IP Logged)
Date: July 11, 2004 09:47AM
<HTML>Graeme,
Heard a little bit from our local SACA president, Stanley engines were going for $3-$5K. Most of the new england posters are still up there but moved to Gorham NH for the Mt. Washington hillclimb and will not be back until Tuesday or so.
George</HTML>
Heard a little bit from our local SACA president, Stanley engines were going for $3-$5K. Most of the new england posters are still up there but moved to Gorham NH for the Mt. Washington hillclimb and will not be back until Tuesday or so.
George</HTML>
Re: Stanley Museum Auction Results
Posted by: SSsssteamer (IP Logged)
Date: July 11, 2004 12:19PM
<HTML>The auction had an average crowd, as in last auctions. It rained during most of the auction, but the crowd hanged on. Although, I am sure the rain dampened some of the bidding prices. I attended and I bought quite a bit, $6,400. It was a typical auction as with many things that were not bright and new looking, they couldn't get bids on; then the often needed parts went for the unreasonably high prices. Add a 10% seller's fee to these prices: An example would be the Stanley hoods. A rusty Mt. Wagon hood went for $50 (good only for a pattern), where an original 1914 20 hp hood in excellent condition went for $800. Examples of high prices would be item 82. Foot brake arm brackets. A pair went for $200. Four engine frame nuts, plated; sold for $175. Reasonable price would be like items: 107. One 735 axle shaft without gear, $30. Item 132. Oil winkers went from $130 to $185. There was something for every one. It was good to see everyone again. If you need a price for most any item, ask me. Sincerely, Pat Farrell</HTML>
Re: Stanley Museum Auction Results
Posted by: Graeme Vagg (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2004 01:01PM
<HTML>Pat,
Many thanks for your auction summary. I don't think wet weather would dampen the interests of the real collectors.
I am currently interested in the market prices for major components to support a 20hp replica project or repair a well worn original Stanley.
Broken gauges, worn out engines and boilers would always be needed. I reviewed the catalog again and there was quite a lot in those categories that would be representative. I will give groups of numbers to see what you might be able to cover:
Gauges: items 25; 26; 62; 63;
Engines/parts: items 55; 56; 57; 58; 105; 108; 117; 149; 154; 250; 255; 345.
Rear Axle Units: 141; 248; 256;
Boilers: 297 to 300.
Item 250 seemed to be a very interesting modified engine. Have many done a compound conversion?
Graeme</HTML>
Many thanks for your auction summary. I don't think wet weather would dampen the interests of the real collectors.
I am currently interested in the market prices for major components to support a 20hp replica project or repair a well worn original Stanley.
Broken gauges, worn out engines and boilers would always be needed. I reviewed the catalog again and there was quite a lot in those categories that would be representative. I will give groups of numbers to see what you might be able to cover:
Gauges: items 25; 26; 62; 63;
Engines/parts: items 55; 56; 57; 58; 105; 108; 117; 149; 154; 250; 255; 345.
Rear Axle Units: 141; 248; 256;
Boilers: 297 to 300.
Item 250 seemed to be a very interesting modified engine. Have many done a compound conversion?
Graeme</HTML>
Re: Stanley Museum Auction Results
Posted by: SSsssteamer (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2004 03:17PM
<HTML>Dear Graeme, prices are as follows (add a 10% sales commission to these prices):
Gauges: items 25 $270; 26 $225; 62 $600; 63 $650;
Engines/parts: items 55 $3,000; 56 $6,000; 57$3,750; 58 $4,000; 105$1,500; 108 $1,300; 117 $250; 149 $6,250; 154 3,250; 250$2,300; 255 $3.500; 345 didn't write it down.
Rear Axle Units: 141 $300; 248 $325; 256 $3,800;
Boilers: 297 $2,100; 298 $100; 299 $200; 300 $50
"Item 250 seemed to be a very interesting modified engine. Have many done a compound conversion?" In my over 20 years in Stanleys, this is the first one that I have ever seen this done to.
Some other prices for those 10 hp Stanley guys :
34. 10 hp slotted burner, w/3 pcs sheet metal sufficient to complete $85
121. Pair of10 hp brake drums with shoes. $200
143. 10 hp Stanley wheels, 34 X 3 clincher for model 60, 5" diameter bolt pattern, etc $300
144. Set of 1913-1914 10 hp Gray and Davis headlamps #106 $70
145. Model 60 30 X 3 24" clincher wheels with rims. $100
232. 10 hp engine cylinder copper cover, complete $100
235. Ditto.. $95
236. Ditto... top half only (very nice & original) $125
272. New John Packard pilot #180 $375
273. New John Packard water pump $250
289. Matching aluminum rear differential housings, 10 hp 1910-1914, original paint and striping, condition excellent. $350</HTML>
Gauges: items 25 $270; 26 $225; 62 $600; 63 $650;
Engines/parts: items 55 $3,000; 56 $6,000; 57$3,750; 58 $4,000; 105$1,500; 108 $1,300; 117 $250; 149 $6,250; 154 3,250; 250$2,300; 255 $3.500; 345 didn't write it down.
Rear Axle Units: 141 $300; 248 $325; 256 $3,800;
Boilers: 297 $2,100; 298 $100; 299 $200; 300 $50
"Item 250 seemed to be a very interesting modified engine. Have many done a compound conversion?" In my over 20 years in Stanleys, this is the first one that I have ever seen this done to.
Some other prices for those 10 hp Stanley guys :
34. 10 hp slotted burner, w/3 pcs sheet metal sufficient to complete $85
121. Pair of10 hp brake drums with shoes. $200
143. 10 hp Stanley wheels, 34 X 3 clincher for model 60, 5" diameter bolt pattern, etc $300
144. Set of 1913-1914 10 hp Gray and Davis headlamps #106 $70
145. Model 60 30 X 3 24" clincher wheels with rims. $100
232. 10 hp engine cylinder copper cover, complete $100
235. Ditto.. $95
236. Ditto... top half only (very nice & original) $125
272. New John Packard pilot #180 $375
273. New John Packard water pump $250
289. Matching aluminum rear differential housings, 10 hp 1910-1914, original paint and striping, condition excellent. $350</HTML>
Re: Stanley Museum Auction Results
Posted by: Graeme Vagg (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2004 11:58PM
<HTML>Dear Pat,
Many thanks for the prices and details of the additional items. Am sure a few will kick themselves for not attending. There was a lot there that I would have regarded as excellent value. The prices will give others confidence of values when attending swap meets or flea markets later.
Graeme</HTML>
Many thanks for the prices and details of the additional items. Am sure a few will kick themselves for not attending. There was a lot there that I would have regarded as excellent value. The prices will give others confidence of values when attending swap meets or flea markets later.
Graeme</HTML>
Re: Stanley Museum Auction Results
Posted by: Peter Brow (IP Logged)
Date: July 15, 2004 08:22AM
<HTML>Hey Pat,
How big a second mortgage would I need to take out to afford a good-running Stanley H4 or H5? Rates are starting to go up, so now may be the time to take the plunge. Besides, tours & the Danville race sound like fun, my project car will take years, and I'm fed up with gas cars. :)
Peter</HTML>
How big a second mortgage would I need to take out to afford a good-running Stanley H4 or H5? Rates are starting to go up, so now may be the time to take the plunge. Besides, tours & the Danville race sound like fun, my project car will take years, and I'm fed up with gas cars. :)
Peter</HTML>
Re: Stanley Museum Auction Results
Posted by: SSsssteamer (IP Logged)
Date: July 15, 2004 12:38PM
<HTML>Dear Peter,</HTML>
Re: Stanley Museum Auction Results
Posted by: SSsssteamer (IP Logged)
Date: July 15, 2004 12:46PM
<HTML>Dear Peter, For a nice noncondensing Stanley; with $50,000 in your pocket, you can probably find something drivable, but with $65,000, you should be driving a very nice steamer. With $85,000, you can almost take your pick of most any of the Stanley dream cars. With over $100,000, you do have your pick of any non condensing Stanley. Sincerely,Pat Farrell</HTML>
Re: Stanley Museum Auction Results
Posted by: Peter Brow (IP Logged)
Date: July 16, 2004 08:25AM
<HTML>Thanks Pat. Oh, the temptation! The big problem is time. I can see myself spending so much time polishing, tinkering, and then out spooking horses and siphoning water, that my project car would never get done, or would get delayed several more years (decades?).
Peter</HTML>
Peter</HTML>
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